Va invit in a dezbate asa-zisul “moral high ground” al principalilor jucatori din WWII, respectiv SUA, UK, evrei, Germania, Rusia, exceptand Franta.
Rog moderatorii sa nu mute topicul in sectiunea “Politica”, as dori sa over posibilitatea cat mai multor persoane sa-si exprime punctul de vedere, ca fapt si opinie, evident sa fie educat sau sa educe.
L is for LOVE, baby
O is for ONLY you that I do
V is for loving VIRTUALLY everything that you are
E is for loving almost EVERYTHING that you do
R is for RAPE me
M is for MURDER me
A is for ANSWERING all of my prayers
N is for KNOWING your loverman's going to be the answer to all of yours
I make a rich woman beg, I'll make a good woman steal
Ice breaker.If World War Two had been an online Real Ttime Strategy game, the chat room traffic would have gone something like this.
*Hitler[AoE] has joined the game.*
*Eisenhower has joined the game.*
*paTTon has joined the game.*
*Churchill has joined the game.*
*benny-tow has joined the game.*
*T0J0 has joined the game.*
*Roosevelt has joined the game.*
*Stalin has joined the game.*
*deGaulle has joined the game.*
Roosevelt: hey sup
T0J0: y0
Stalin: hi
Churchill: hi
Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks!
paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks
T0JO: lol
Roosevelt: o this fockin sucks i got a depression!
benny-tow: haha america sux
Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool?
Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever
Stalin: cool
deGaulle: **** Hitler rushed some1 help
Hitler[AoE]: lol byebye frenchy
Roosevelt: i dont got **** to help, sry
Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me
Roosevelt: get antiair guns
Churchill: i cant afford them
benny-tow: u n00bs know what team talk is?
paTTon: stfu
Roosevelt: o yah hit the navajo button guys
deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick
Eisenhower: i cant do **** til rosevelt gives me an army
paTTon: yah hurry the fock up
Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded
deGaulle: this is fockin weak u guys suck
*deGaulle has left the game.*
Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k?
benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair?
benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head?
Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO
T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u
Roosevelt: wtf! thats bullsh1t u fags im gunna kick ur asses
T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol
Roosevelt: u little biotch ill get u
Hitler[AoE]: wtf
Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge fockin army
Hitler[AoE]: thats bullsh1t u hacker
Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler
Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me!
T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard
Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path
Stalin: WTF u arsshoel! WE HAD A FoCKIN TRUCE
Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol
benny-tow: haha
benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy soon sum1
T0J0: o **** i cant help u i got my hands full
Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help
Roosevelt: yah thats right ***** im comin for ya
Stalin: church help me
Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here
Stalin: dont be an arss
Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late
Eisenhower: LOL
benny-tow: hahahh oh sh1t help
Hitler: o man ur focked
paTTon: oh what now biotch
Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol
*benny-tow has been eliminated.*
benny-tow: lame
Roosevelt: gj patton
paTTon: thnx
Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my sh1t
Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record
Eisenhower: Nuts!
benny~tow: wtf that mean?
Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped
paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun cocksocker
Stalin: rofl
T0J0: HAHAHHAA
Hitler[AoE]: u guys are fockin gay
Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city
*Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.*
benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself
Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL
Stalin: OMG LMAO!
Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows
*Hitler[AoE] has left the game*
paTTon: hahahhah
T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs
benny~tow: shut up noob
Roosevelt: haha wut a moron
paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now?
Eisenhower: yah me too
T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol
Eisenhower: fock u
paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie
Stalin: go to hell lol
paTTon: fock this sh1t im goin afk
Eisenhower: yah this is gay
*Roosevelt has left the game.*
Hitler[AoE]: wtf?
Eisenhower: sh1t now we need some1 to join
*tru_m4n has joined the game.*
tru_m4n: hi all
T0J0: hey
Stalin: sup
Churchill: hi
tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff!
tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY **** I GOT NUKES
Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz
tru_m4n: no way i only got like a couple
Stalin: omg dont be gay gimmie nuculer secrets
T0J0: wtf is nukes?
T0J0: holy ****holy****hoyl****!
*T0J0 has been eliminated.*
*The Allied team has won the game!*
Eisenhower: awesome!
Churchill: gg noobs no re
T0J0: thats bull**** u fockin suck
*T0J0 has left the game.*
*Eisenhower has left the game.*
Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for ****
Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway dumbarss
tru_m4n: l8r all
benny~tow: bye
Churchill: l8r
Stalin: fock u all
tru_m4n: shut up commie lol
*tru_m4n has left the game.*
benny~tow: lololol u commie
Churchill: ROFL
Churchill: bye commie
*Churchill has left the game.*
*benny~tow has left the game.*
Stalin: i hate u all fags
*Stalin has left the game.*
paTTon: lol no1 is left
paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep
*paTTon has been eliminated.*
paTTon: o sh1t!
*paTTon has left the game.*
blacker than the blackest black. TIMES INFINITY
Imi mentin parerea pe care am avut-o mereu: Hitler nu a fost deloc indreptatit pentru a-i "trata" in felul acela pe evrei...Cu celalalt subiect al holocaustului german sunt complet de acord
diplomatic, mai multe informati ?Mesaj iniţiat de CatDeluxe
Imi mentin parerea pe care am avut-o mereu: Hitler nu a fost deloc indreptatit pentru a-i "trata" in felul acela pe evrei...Cu celalalt subiect al holocaustului german sunt complet de acord
irelevant.Ice breaker.
L is for LOVE, baby
O is for ONLY you that I do
V is for loving VIRTUALLY everything that you are
E is for loving almost EVERYTHING that you do
R is for RAPE me
M is for MURDER me
A is for ANSWERING all of my prayers
N is for KNOWING your loverman's going to be the answer to all of yours
I make a rich woman beg, I'll make a good woman steal
WWII a fost punctul maxim al indoctrinarii ideologice propagandiste a unui popor. Hittler a fost ales, nu impus, germanii au fost atat de injectati de conceptul rasei superioare si al spatiului vital incat au participat benevol la catastrofa ce a urmat
But to be fully couched within the comfort of a friend is a mode of existence with severe implications. To please you perfectly, she must understand you perfectly. Thus you cannot defy her expectations or escape her reach. Her benevolence has circumscribed you, and your life’s achievements will not reach beyond the map she has drawn.
Din punct de vedere diplomatic, vorba lui Syn, germanii si-au facut-o cu mana lor...Oricum, cel care a comis cele mai multe crime in WW2 se pare ca nu a fost Hitler ci Stalin.
Intre noi fie vorba, ai de facut vreun proiect despre Holocaust? daca da pm me ca iti dau eu niste informatii
Nu vreau sa ma considerati rasist fiindca nu sunt. Parerea mea este ca este deplasat sa ii consideram pe evrei parte principala a acestui razboi. Ei nu aveau o tara in acea perioada, nu aveau o armata si pierderile lor nu au fost atat de numeroase cum au fost ale principalelor tari implicate in razboi.
In rest... ce mai poate fi spus? Un razboi tampit purtat de niste idioti care nu au fost capabili sa isi rezolve frustrarile decat pe cale armata. Germania are aceeasi vina ca si America, Japonia, Romania, Iugoslavia sau Ungaria.
Singurele tari care merita respect sunt Elvetia si Suedia.
1. spui ca e gresit punctul de vedere al “indoctrinarii ideologice propagandiste”, de ce ?
2. “au participat benevol la catastrofa ce a urmat” sa inteleg ca esti de acord cu bombardarea a peste 1000 de orase fara a fi puncte strategice, distrugandule in mare parte impreuna cu locuitori civili, de omorarea a peste 1.5 milioane de barbati, femei si copii in taberele de supravietuitoti prin infometare si degradare corporara, de epurarea etnica a peste 8 milioane de germani din care in jur de 4 milioane nu au supravietuit relocari, etc. , dupa care sa pretinda si sa inpuna demonizarea poporului german.
ce si-au facut cu mana lor ?Din punct de vedere diplomatic, vorba lui Syn, germanii si-au facut-o cu mana lor...Oricum, cel care a comis cele mai multe crime in WW2 se pare ca nu a fost Hitler ci Stalin.
Intre noi fie vorba, ai de facut vreun proiect despre Holocaust? daca da pm me ca iti dau eu niste informatii
prima afirmatie este corecta, din punct de vedere legal un stat suveran poate lua orce decizie in cadrul lui, in plus au avut destule sanse sa plece cu tot cu bunuri.
“In rest... ce mai poate fi spus? Un razboi tampit purtat de niste idioti care nu au fost capabili sa isi rezolve frustrarile decat pe cale armata” incoerent, rolul principal al unei tari este de a dobandi noi teritori.
“Germania are aceeasi vina ca si America, Japonia, Romania, Iugoslavia sau Ungaria.”
aberant.
L is for LOVE, baby
O is for ONLY you that I do
V is for loving VIRTUALLY everything that you are
E is for loving almost EVERYTHING that you do
R is for RAPE me
M is for MURDER me
A is for ANSWERING all of my prayers
N is for KNOWING your loverman's going to be the answer to all of yours
I make a rich woman beg, I'll make a good woman steal
1. pai nu era gresit? adica germanii sunt o rasa superioara si in conculzie au nevoie de un spatiu vital marit pentru a facilita devenirea lor?
2. de din “au participat benevol la catastrofa ce a urmat” intelegi ca sunt de acord cu cele enumerate de tine?
But to be fully couched within the comfort of a friend is a mode of existence with severe implications. To please you perfectly, she must understand you perfectly. Thus you cannot defy her expectations or escape her reach. Her benevolence has circumscribed you, and your life’s achievements will not reach beyond the map she has drawn.
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defechez pe al vostru bun gust.
Afirmatia mea este corecta din cauza ca toate tarile au facut jocul Germaniei. In afara tarilor care au fost atacate direct de nemti, majoritatea au ales sa se situeze de o parte sau de alta a baricadei. Si asta nu este un semn de maturitate diplomatica. O diplomatie adevarata face totul pentru a evita un razboi nu pentru a-l extinde.
Romania s-a declarat neutra la inceputul razboiului. O idee foarte buna. Dupa aia s-a razgandit si a intrat in razboi de partea nemtilor. Dupa aia s-a razgandit iar si s-a dat cu rusii. Asta ce dovedeste? Prostie chioara.
contextul istoric suna altfel, daca vrei sa vezi simplist nu ai decat insa istoria nu e simpla asa ca nu o judeca simplist
intial toate marile puteri nu si-au dorit un conflict cu hitler, l-au lasat sa isi faca meandrele sperand ca astfel pune si el mana pe ce poate si se potoleste.
But to be fully couched within the comfort of a friend is a mode of existence with severe implications. To please you perfectly, she must understand you perfectly. Thus you cannot defy her expectations or escape her reach. Her benevolence has circumscribed you, and your life’s achievements will not reach beyond the map she has drawn.
Astea sunt decat motive inventate dupa razboi. In realitate, toti au vrut razboi ca sa faca bani. Mai fusese un razboi mondial cu 30 de ani inainte si au stiut precis ce aveau de facut.
Pana la urma s-a curatat planeta de fraieri si au ramas in viata numai "smecherii". Ca si la Revolutia romana din 1989, in general, primele victime au fost oamenii cu spirit civic si cu idealuri. Cei cu sufletul pur. Prefacutii, mincinosii si lasii au supravietuit si sunt prin Parlament acum.
da tu altceva decat sa te plangi mai stii? e frustrant sa vezi ca fiecare topic contine cate un compentariu patetic in care te plangi sau arunci cu noroi in ceva din romania
But to be fully couched within the comfort of a friend is a mode of existence with severe implications. To please you perfectly, she must understand you perfectly. Thus you cannot defy her expectations or escape her reach. Her benevolence has circumscribed you, and your life’s achievements will not reach beyond the map she has drawn.
Nemtii si-au atras singuri dezastrele ce au urmat. Si asta numai pentru ca au fost indeajuns de prosti si de vraijiti de ceea ce Hitler si Der Sozialistische Arbeit Partei le promitea incat sa il aleaga pe el conducator. Cat despre Hitler, eu cred ca a fost doar un nebun carismatic...
@Syn: Ce vezi tu plangocios in ceea ce am scris eu? A fost numai o constatare. Si asta e realitatea in care traim.
Crede-ma ca daca sunt si lucruri bune si am sa le observ vreodata am sa scriu cu cea mai mare placere despre ele aici.
In primul rand recunosti existenta raselor?
Acesta fiind unul din motive, nu cel mai important.
daca ai fi adus si o explicatie, "ca sa bat pamantul" in fapte te-as fi tolerat, esti rugat sa nu mai intri pe aici.
Iar U.K. a facut tratat de alianta cu Polonia cu cateva luni inainte, tind sa precizez ca Polonia a atacat mai intai granita Germaniei, intrand in razboi cand nu avea nici un beneficiu de castigat, siguranta nationala nefiindu-i amenintata, Adolf Hitler a aratat ca o simpatizeaza si doreste o alianta. Din punct de vedere militar si strategic asta este o aberatie, ceva nemaivazut, facuta special pentru a crea un razboi, nu pentru al evita.Inca ceva S.U.A. a incuraj razboiul, sub influetnta evreilor care controlau bancile, au dovedit miselie si prefacatorie, dupa care tot ei se bat cu pumnul in piept pretinzand
“moral high ground”.
[/QUOTE]Romania s-a declarat neutra la inceputul razboiului. O idee foarte buna. Dupa aia s-a razgandit si a intrat in razboi de partea nemtilor.[/QUOTE]
Total patriotric, nu intru in amanunte, decizie corecta.
[/QUOTE]Dupa aia s-a razgandit iar si s-a dat cu rusii. Asta ce dovedeste? Prostie chioara.[/QUOTE]
Au avut de ales intre o preluare diplomatica de comunisti sau o preluare cu arma de comunisti, in orce caz lasitate.
Bani? putin mai coeerent te rog;daca vrei sa zici castiguri economice,
numai S.U.A. pentru asta, celelalte forte avand alte obiectivein principiu.
[/QUOTE]Pana la urma s-a curatat planeta de fraieri si au ramas in viata numai "smecherii". Ca si la Revolutia romana din 1989, in general, primele victime au fost oamenii cu spirit civic si cu idealuri. Cei cu sufletul pur. Prefacutii, mincinosii si lasii au supravietuit si sunt prin Parlament acum.[/QUOTE]
Sti ceva, ai confundat topicul, te rog sa nu mai aiureazi, chiar daca te abati de la subiect macar fi cat de cat coerent.
Last edited by loverman; 08-05-2009 at 15:46.
L is for LOVE, baby
O is for ONLY you that I do
V is for loving VIRTUALLY everything that you are
E is for loving almost EVERYTHING that you do
R is for RAPE me
M is for MURDER me
A is for ANSWERING all of my prayers
N is for KNOWING your loverman's going to be the answer to all of yours
I make a rich woman beg, I'll make a good woman steal
Scuze. Nu m-am putut abtine sa nu fac o paralela intre cele doua situatii.
Oricum este clar ca toate tarile au avut interesul sa fie razboi. Cei care nu au vrut razboi au reusit sa se mentina in afara lui. Vezi Suedia si Elvetia. Bravo lor!
Sa numesti o natie intrega "prosti" e rasism.
In plus, aici nu e literatura, daca vrei sa iti exprim o idee argumenteazo cu date, sau vei fi luata peste picior ( adevar universal, cu atat mai mult aici ).
Cat despre Hitler, eu cred ca a fost doar un nebun carismatic...[/QUOTE]
Nu stiam ca esti psihiatru, poti sa argumentezi te rog.
Realitatea in care traim va depaseste, sincer si pe mine, Che Guevara habar nu ai despre evenimentele care sau petrecut si cat de mult au influentat si influenteaza intreaga lume.
@Syn:Nu e plangaciuos, doar pe dinafara.
Last edited by loverman; 08-05-2009 at 15:50.
L is for LOVE, baby
O is for ONLY you that I do
V is for loving VIRTUALLY everything that you are
E is for loving almost EVERYTHING that you do
R is for RAPE me
M is for MURDER me
A is for ANSWERING all of my prayers
N is for KNOWING your loverman's going to be the answer to all of yours
I make a rich woman beg, I'll make a good woman steal
OK. Lamureste-ma tu. Care au fost evenimentele care s-au petrecut si ce influenta au dat ele omenirii.
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