Manilla vs. Orleans

**Shefoo** · 10-03-2007 00:21

Dupa cum bine se stie, nucleele AMD au devenit din ce in ce mai populare, dar nu stim, de fapt, ce au in plus unele fatza de altele. Ma refer aici doar la Manilla (pe Athlon64) si Orleans. Este clar ca Orleans este mai cautat deoarece este mai nou, dar... ce stie sa faca mai bine decat Manilla?

**Shefoo** · 11-03-2007 09:25

Cred, totusi, ca "Manila" se scrie cu un singur "L"...

**Papi_Eib** · 11-03-2007 14:13

Amd 64 pe Manilla eu nu am vazut. Manilla sunt semproane.

Deci vrei date despre amd 64 :

Clawhammer (130 nm SOI)

* CPU-Stepping: C0, CG
* L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
* L2-Cache: 1024 KiB, fullspeed
* MMX, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, AMD64, Cool'n'Quiet, NX Bit (only CG)
* Socket 754, 800 MHz HyperTransport (HT800)
* Socket 939, 1000 MHz HyperTransport (HT1000)
* VCore: 1.50 V
* Power Consumption (TDP): 89 Watt max
* First Release: September 23, 2003
* Clockrate: 2000 - 2600 MHz

Newcastle (130 nm SOI)

Also possible: ClawHammer-512 (Clawhammer with partially disabled L2-Cache)

* CPU-Stepping: CG
* L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
* L2-Cache: 512 KiB, fullspeed
* MMX, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, AMD64, Cool'n'Quiet, NX Bit
* Socket 754, 800 MHz HyperTransport (HT800)
* Socket 939, 1000 MHz HyperTransport (HT1000)
* VCore: 1.50 V
* Power Consumption (TDP): 89 Watt max
* First Release: 2004
* Clockrate: 1800 - 2400 MHz

Winchester (90 nm SOI)

* CPU-Stepping: D0
* L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
* L2-Cache: 512 KiB, fullspeed
* MMX, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, AMD64, Cool'n'Quiet, NX Bit
* Socket 939, 1000 MHz HyperTransport (HT1000)
* VCore: 1.40 V
* Power Consumption (TDP): 67 Watt max
* First Release: 2004
* Clockrate: 1800 - 2200 MHz

Venice (90 nm SOI)

* CPU-Stepping: E3, E6
* L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
* L2-Cache: 512 KiB, fullspeed
* MMX, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, AMD64, Cool'n'Quiet, NX Bit
* Socket 754, 800 MHz HyperTransport (HT800)
* Socket 939, 1000 MHz HyperTransport (HT1000)
* VCore: 1.35 V or 1.40 V
* Power Consumption (TDP): 67 Watt max
* First Release: April 4, 2005
* Clockrate: 1800 - 2400 MHz

San Diego (90 nm SOI)

* CPU-Stepping: E4, E6
* L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
* L2-Cache: 1024 KiB, fullspeed
* MMX, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, AMD64, Cool'n'Quiet, NX Bit
* Socket 939, 1000 MHz HyperTransport (HT1000)
* VCore: 1.35 V or 1.40 V
* Power Consumption (TDP): 89 Watt max
* First Release: April 15, 2005
* Clockrate: 2200 - 2600 MHz
Orleans (90 nm SOI)

* CPU-Stepping: F2
* L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
* L2-Cache: 512 KiB, fullspeed
* MMX, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, AMD64, Cool'n'Quiet, NX Bit, AMD Virtualization
* Socket AM2, 1000 MHz HyperTransport (HT1000)
* VCore: 1.35 V or 1.40 V
* Power Consumption (TDP): 62 Watt max
* First Release: May 23, 2006
* Clockrate: 2000 - 2600 MHz
Lima (65 nm SOI)

* CPU-Stepping: G1
* L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
* L2-Cache: 512 KiB, fullspeed
* MMX, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, AMD64, Cool'n'Quiet, NX Bit, AMD Virtualization
* Socket AM2, 1000 MHz HyperTransport (HT1000)
* VCore: 1.25/1.35/1.40V
* Power Consumption (TDP): 45 Watt max
* First Release: February 20, 2007
* Clockrate: 2000 - 2400 MHz

**susp3ctu** · 11-03-2007 14:18

manilla = sempron
orleans = athlon 64
manilla < orleans

**Shefoo** · 11-03-2007 23:19

NU MAI INTZELEG NIMIC!!! La toate firmele de calcuatoare la care am fost mi s-a spus ca Athlon64 3200+ (AM2) are nucleu Manila.

**Papi_Eib** · 11-03-2007 23:41

Mesaj iniţiat de Shefoo

NU MAI INTZELEG NIMIC!!! La toate firmele de calcuatoare la care am fost mi s-a spus ca Athlon64 3200+ (AM2) are nucleu Manila.

aia vad si eu pe situri ..dar nu stiam ca exista manila la athlon64. Cine stie ce au mai scos si baietii

**Wrajitorul** · 11-03-2007 23:49

Mesaj iniţiat de Shefoo

NU MAI INTZELEG NIMIC!!! La toate firmele de calcuatoare la care am fost mi s-a spus ca Athlon64 3200+ (AM2) are nucleu Manila.

asa si e. de la 3500+ in sus au nucleu Orleans.

**Papi_Eib** · 11-03-2007 23:53

Mesaj iniţiat de wrajitorul

asa si e. de la 3500+ in sus au nucleu Orleans.

au scos la tehnologii de fabricatie, si soketuri de doar ei mai stiu , ce si cum

. Te duci sa iei un procesor la o anume frecventa si aflii dupa ca mai era in 2-3 versiuni.

**Shefoo** · 12-03-2007 00:00

Si cum asta nu ar fi suficient...vin sa pun cireasa pe tort. Priviti poza! Eu deja imi dau palme... Acum facui testul.

**Papi_Eib** · 12-03-2007 00:04

exact ce ziceam eu. E o varza totala ... cu atatea tehnologii, doar ei stiu ce pun in ele

**Wrajitorul** · 12-03-2007 00:05

ma rog, eu stiam altceva, dar se prea poate..

**Papi_Eib** · 12-03-2007 00:07

tehnologiile pt athon 64 sunt cele pe care le-am pus eu mai sus. Manila nu e intre ele. Aia e trecuta la sempron.

**Shefoo** · 12-03-2007 10:05

Cred ca sunt pe drumul cel bun... Cu greu am dedus de la AMD de pe site ca:

- toate Sempron-urile (AM2) si Athlon64-urile (AM2) 3000+ si 3200+ au nucleu Manila
- Athlon64-urile (AM2) 3500+ si 3800+ au unele nucleu Manila, altele Orleans si... ar mai fi Lima, dar nu ma intereseaza
- Athlon64-ul (AM2) 4000+ are nucleu Orleans